-So, we're backstage at Movies Rock and we got here this morning, I mean, the team got here at 8 A.M. I got here late at 9. And it was all set up and doing a full-blown run through, so that we know exactly what the time is gonna be for the many, many outfit changes, the hair changes, the makeup changes. And I think in actually one scene, Wendy had to device a plan where they could change their hair and makeup and their clothes in about 5 minutes flat.
Okay, tell me about concealer, under eye concealer, the whole-- all the steps--
-Okay.
-The biggest tip I can give you about under eye concealer, most people try to choose a color that brightens and conceals at the same time and this is where you can sometimes get confused with the concealer on, and instead of making really flawless and blending in, it ends up turning little grey or a little of ash.
Your concealer is working too hard. It's too light. It's not gonna be able to cover anything. It's simply gonna bring more attention. So, my advice for under the eyes only is go for a warm concealer. In MAC, you would choose something that's the NW. And try to go with a color that's as close to the darkest part of your skin tone. So if you're tan, go a little bit more tan. If you're normally feeling kind, reach for a NW20 or for the NW25. You'll be amazed.
Because it's not working as hard and it ends up looking much more seamless 'cause you don't have to use as much and don't forget moisturizer, always moisturize under your concealer.
-So do you put the moisturizer on first, let it settle in, or do you just kind of put it on right away? How do you do?
-I'm a mixer. I like to do moisturizer, and while my skin is still really moist, I put a little bit of moisturizer in my concealer just so then I can create one brand new synergistic texture. I don't want them sitting on top of each other floating.
I really want them to mix together and combine, so that it wears longer and it looks more natural.
-Do you use your fingers or do you use a brush? And which MAC brush if you do use your brush.
-I'm a huge fan of the MAC #217 brush for concealer. It's a fluffy brush. It's white. Most people look at it and go, oh. You can may well use that for concealer if it's a cake concealer or powder concealer, but it's really great for liquid concealers too. The fluffier the brush, the less amount of product you'll end up with. Fingertips are good if you want full coverage.
It's a flat surface. So anything flat, you're gonna get the most coverage possible. So if you want just a little bit, think fluffy. If you want a lot, think flat.
-And if you're wearing eye shadow, and I mean, you just have a hard night of partying. You wanna get out to party, something like that. What color eye shadow would you recommend 'cause I know pinks, reds not so good, something. Brown makes you look a little blah.
-Sometimes, sometimes. Generally, if I've been out partying and having a good time and my eyes are showing how tired I am,
I think that's the perfect time to create a smoky eye, and creating a smoky eye that's a technique. It's not a color. So you can pretty much choose any color you want. Mind you. If you do this, I had to choose the pinks or the purples. You may be bringing out the bloodshot quality of your eyes. You might like stay away from that. I'm a big fan of like burgundy browns, rich tones, things that have Terra Cotta undertones. You don't have to stick to browns. You can go in to the greys and burgundys and blacks if you want,
but you know have fun just play with it but smoky is the key. If you're tired all the way around, it makes everything look more bright.
-It's almost like a tinted moisturizer. It doesn't really cover as well as these with that one.
-Okay. So, the stick concealers are gonna be more emollient.
-Uh huh.
-They're an emollient-based. They tend to have silicone in them, so they slip and slide across the skin.
This is a Select Cover. The reason I like the Select Cover is 'cause like you said, it reminds you of a tinted moisturizer. You can use it as a foundation as well. So, let's say, one of those people that you get your makeup done and they'll like, "oh I just need a little bit more coverage and you pull out your concealer. You put it on like, wow. Okay. That's a lot. The Select Cover is gonna-- it's gonna cover. That's gonna look really natural. So, it's kind of like your stepping stones in concealer. Do you need to cover a tattoo or do you need to just cover that you didn't get enough sleep last night.
This is gonna be one of your choices.
-So, there's also one with a sponge tip. Do you recommend that one for under the eye 'cause it's--
-That's the Moisturecover. I love Moisturecover concealer. And again, you can use that as a foundation too. They're all really-- they're water based. They're all really emollient. They go on can make your skin feel really plumped up and good, something I want in a concealer. I don't necessarily wanna feel really dry.
-Great. Great.
-Just saying.
-So, to cover, I guess acne. I was trying it out this morning. I was using the stick, but what do you recommend, I guess, what's the fastest? First, you moisturize. What do you--
-Okay. So, acne can be really tricky because you want the acne to go away. It doesn't go away. Nothing covers texture. We can only cover color. So, my first advice, moisturize. Moisturize really well and if you can get something called EZR, which is a gel.
-What is that?
-MAC sells it at the MAC Pro store, and you put that on first, all of that dehydrated skin that's in the healing process. You have to have that dehydrated skin to get the healing process.
-Uh huh.
-It just needs to be really moist. That way when you get your concealer on it, you conceal the texture. The concealer grabs on a little bit more, and the trick is a little tiny bit. It's a very long way. I think the biggest mistake that I see people make mistake, they wanna cover it and cover it. They cover it so badly that. They want to cover it so badly, they put it on and it's too much. So it's bringing your attention again, like "oh, now I have this perfectly covered spot.
-Great. Great.
-It's like a putting flag on it.
-I think so.
-It's gotta get bigger today and all the days.
-What if it's not?
-So, I guess what do you recommend then like which concealer do you recommend for concealing acne?
-I mean, well, it depends because if it's the first or second day and it's a big, enormous, giant monster, I can go ahead and reach for the full coverage, just cover it and alleviate your headache. But if it's in the healing processes and it's starting to take all the way, reach for your Moisturecovers or your Select Covers because you don't wanna camouflage it so much because you'll suffocate it.
You want it to just blend. So, think in terms of little bit as long way. But if it's a beast, cover it up and then once it starts to cooperate and heal, you can start letting air get to it.
-So you recommend everybody having different types of concealers then, like--
-I do. I know it's not. I know it's not what people believe. People want that one thing that's just gonna remedy everything.
Every single product has a job and if you want the job to be done correctly, then you wanna make sure you reach for the right product. In order for makeup artist to be able to mix and match any color they want, any texture they want, so you have all your primary colors and your secondary colors. You can mix them together to create different color. And then if you have a gloss agent, so you can make glossy or you can mix in frosting agents to get it frosty.
It's basically a lipstick factory in it too.
-Usually, when a girl goes to a MAC counter and wants foundation and you try to match it, okay let's go in the store and then you go outside and it doesn't match.
-Right.
-What's your recommendation when you go in the store like a quick color MAC.
-Quick tip?
-What's your advice?
-Always trust a MAC artist to at least get you started in the right direction.
Always check it in natural light if you can 'cause something may look really great in the store under those lights which are as closed to daylight as false lights can be, but nothing tells the truth more than sunshine. And if that doesn't work, really make sure that what's your matching is your entire body. You're not just matching your face. You're not just matching your neck. Actually turn and try to match the back of your shoulder, so that you can get a good all over body match.
